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Old May 29, 2006, 02:38 PM // 14:38   #1
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Is it me or is the final battle with Shiro TOO EASY!
Each time I have gone in to fight him it has taken my group less than 2minutes to complete the mission. had one as short as 1min 20secs.

I dunno, but I think this final fight is a bit too easy and should have a little more challenging points to it. I know it's basically the last part of Raisu Palace which is easy anyways with the Kuunavang skills, but yeah..

I guess I was hoping for more.
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Old May 29, 2006, 02:42 PM // 14:42   #2
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Teah its easy, but if you're stupid enough to let the full time of Meditation of the Reaper, you can die in 1 blow (Steal 600 HP to everyone). Otherwise, he's easy.
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Old May 29, 2006, 02:52 PM // 14:52   #3
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Shiro is easy , and I consider Raisu the final battle - It is quite hard imo.
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Old May 29, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57   #4
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i dunno I think Raisu is made easy when you have 2 Warr and 1 or 2 MM inthe group. With Kuunavangs warrior skill, an entire mob dies pretty much instantly with a bunch of Minions surounding you
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Old May 29, 2006, 03:05 PM // 15:05   #5
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I Thought raisu was kind of tough. We only had one Warrior, and only one mm when we went through. But I look forward to going again, either again with my monk, or with my other characters. I thought that shiro was pretty easy. Although i never even got to him. We spoke to Kuunavang, and I was walking up the hallway/bridge when our warrior and assassins wiped him out, It took us about 45 seconds total. I dont know if they did some kind of wierd trick that i wasnt aware of but I was like "whiskey tango foxtrot is it over" I was using my monk as a healer, and never even lifted a finger. Im gonna try this one again too. I want to see if those results are reproducable.(sp)
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Old May 29, 2006, 06:10 PM // 18:10   #6
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With an Alliance group last night, we did a streak of masters from Gyala right to the end. Didn't have a warrior for any of it until the Shiro, and that was only because one of the 2 assassins had to get some sleep.
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Old May 29, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03   #7
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raisu is quite hard, harder than any other mission in factions(because of the time limit)...

but it is easy with 1 ss and 1 or more mm necros...
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Old May 30, 2006, 12:48 AM // 00:48   #8
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My fastest record: 35 seconds
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Old May 30, 2006, 07:20 AM // 07:20   #9
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hehhe 37 secs here
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Old May 30, 2006, 05:32 PM // 17:32   #10
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my fastest record.. 1 second... how you ask? ... i had the luxon base defender with me ^_^.... instant kill FTW!
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Old May 31, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45   #11
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I thought Raisu was easy, we completed it with plenty of time left, maybe because we have 2 MM and 2 W. I tried Shiro with one group that has only one warrior and one hench protection and we died 3 times. So I joined another group that has 3 W and 1 A. The first time we die, the second time I was teleported and was fighting to get back in when half of my party die but Shiro got killed by the 3 warriors. I need to get in again to complete my 15K armor. I am a monk and does not feel my healing is enough when it is really critical. Shall I become a protection/smiting and use zealot's fire and B Aura to help the warriors? Any help to make it easier?
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Old May 31, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35   #12
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If it was too hard, the forums would be full of threads with "Shiro is too hard" or "Nerf Shiro" or some crap like that.
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Old May 31, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15   #13
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Raisu is challenging because of the huge damage that some of those guys put out. However a Shelter-spamming rit, MM, and 2 AoE (nuker or echo ss) makes it easy.

And i don't see the big deal about shiro. he died so fast :O except that time we all balled up around him and he used impossible odds.
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Old May 31, 2006, 08:19 PM // 20:19   #14
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Yeah I agree Raisu was more of the final level, Sanctum was just kind of there. He was very easy just wait for him to go into medatation of the reaper and hit hiim with like 3-4 or all 8 kuurvang
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Old Jun 01, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07   #15
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Yea he was easy, if you want a stupid challenge try doing it with henchmen and see how long it takes you. :P
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Old Jun 01, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46   #16
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Raisu was making hard to give a weak boss at the end. You know what happens after the storm, then its the same thing here. Hard at the begining and soft to the end
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Old Jun 01, 2006, 02:49 AM // 02:49   #17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleEye33
Yea he was easy, if you want a stupid challenge try doing it with henchmen and see how long it takes you. :P
I've done that.

Hoo-boy.

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Old Jun 01, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04   #18
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Quote:
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Yea he was easy, if you want a stupid challenge try doing it with henchmen and see how long it takes you. :P
Henchmen can interrupt Impossible Odds

Tbh, henchwise, I've failed more attempts on Shiro than Raisu... if hench don't manage enough damage ouput Shiro gets off a second Meditation, at which point you're generally screwed (hench kinda slow down :/). Raisu is just a matter of pull, kill. Pull, kill.

Make Shiro immune to Kd.
Increase Meditation absorb by a few hundred.
Make blind only give 50% miss on him or something.

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Old Jun 01, 2006, 05:53 AM // 05:53   #19
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It's funny how you can get easily away from Shiro's aggro circle so that he goes back to the spot where he stands in start.

"pfft I'm too lazy to chase you down puny mortals"
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Old Jun 05, 2006, 10:44 AM // 10:44   #20
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8 w/mo with healing hands and the uber sword skill = massive dmg
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